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Base Goku vs Beerus; experiment
Topic Started: May 28 2016, 07:29 PM (803 Views)
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So this is a little experiment I'm trying out, due to a debate over Whis's abilities I want to apply a similar idea to Goku here.

Who would win between current DBS base Goku and beerus?

I think Goku wins via ITing inside Beerus and telefragging him, who agrees? And if you disagree, is it because Goku wouldn't do that or because Beerus would tank it?
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Goku wouldn't do that because he simply can't.

Teleporting inside someone is impossible.no one has showed it once in the show.

Beerus stomps.
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There's no evidence he can't.

Why does that matter? He can teleport and that's good enough for me.

Not that I disagree with you on any of that. I'm doing this because I've been seeing people get this treatment lately, figured I'd start getting into it.
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Yes, the evidence being is that he never teleported inside someone.


IT teleports you to a person, not inside a person.
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Funny how telefragging is now your favourite word to say, Tin Man :p
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May 28 2016, 07:46 PM
Yes, the evidence being is that he never teleported inside someone.


IT teleports you to a person, not inside a person.
So? That doesn't mean anything.

Proof that it's impossible to do so?

IT has shown that it lets you teleport, and one can easily teleport inside a person. That's good enough for me, whether or not he's ever used it in combat like that before is irrelevant.

Also yes I'm pretty much taking the p*** out of this philosophy I see surrounding Whis's abilities, in reality I agree with you 100% that Goku obviously won't and likely can't use IT that way.

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May 28 2016, 07:53 PM
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May 28 2016, 07:46 PM
Yes, the evidence being is that he never teleported inside someone.


IT teleports you to a person, not inside a person.
So? That doesn't mean anything.

Proof that it's impossible to do so?

IT has shown that it lets you teleport, and one can easily teleport inside a person. That's good enough for me, whether or not he's ever used it in combat like that before is irrelevant.

Also yes I'm pretty much taking the p*** out of this philosophy I see surrounding Whis's abilities, in reality I agree with you 100% that Goku obviously won't and likely can't use IT that way.

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Perhaps he can, perhaps he can't.

As of now, he never teleported inside someone.Until he does, I'm assuming he isn't able to do so.

Now if you talk about teleportation like Kid Buu has, then it's possible.
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As of now, he never teleported inside someone. Until he does, I'm assuming he isn't able to do so.

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I'll concede now, Beerus wins.
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Goku didn't show the ability to teleport inside someone.

This is different from Whis, he's shown matter manipulation, to the degree of Vados did, so I can assume he can craft objects to protect himself if needed in a fight as well.
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He can't just transport inside someone and Beerus is much stronger than Goku's base. Beerus crushes.
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May 28 2016, 09:29 PM
Goku didn't show the ability to teleport inside someone.

This is different from Whis, he's shown matter manipulation, to the degree of Vados did, so I can assume he can craft objects to protect himself if needed in a fight as well.
So? He can teleport, and according to you that's all we need, how applied in the past is irrelevant.

Except it's the same in every way if we go by how you define these things. This isn't exactly a large leap to make, he teleports, so he can teleport inside someone. What's changed, how can your prove that this won't happen? What's your logic?
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Who wins? Nappa or SSJ4 Gogeta?

Nappa wins. He has more weight and he is bald.
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Goku didn't show the ability to teleport inside someone.

This is different from Whis, he's shown matter manipulation, to the degree of Vados did, so I can assume he can craft objects to protect himself if needed in a fight as well.
So? He can teleport, and according to you that's all we need, how applied in the past is irrelevant.

Except it's the same in every way if we go by how you define these things. This isn't exactly a large leap to make, he teleports, so he can teleport inside someone. What's changed, how can your prove that this won't happen? What's your logic?
Goku as a person, in character, has never done that nor will he do that. That's the logic.

Whis shown that he can can use matter manipulation to recreate or rearrange objects to the degree of Vados. Whether he used it in combat or not is irrelevant since we know he can use the ability in the long run.

RealSociedad - Gogeta's shown he has FAR more power then Saiyan saga Goku. My point with Whis is similar, he's shown the power to use matter manipulation upon other abilities.
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Goku as a person, in character, has never done that nor will he do that. That's the logic.

Whis shown that he can can use matter manipulation to recreate or rearrange objects to the degree of Vados. Whether he used it in combat or not is irrelevant since we know he can use the ability in the long run.

RealSociedad - Gogeta's shown he has FAR more power then Saiyan saga Goku. My point with Whis is similar, he's shown the power to use matter manipulation upon other abilities.

The idea that he won't do that is speculation, and for never done, I don't see why that matters.

And whether or not Goku has used it in that specific way is irrelevant, he uses it and even uses it in combat. We know how he can use his ability in the long run and that includes telefragging.

RealSociedad was making a joke on how one sided this match is.
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Goku as a person, in character, has never done that nor will he do that. That's the logic.

Whis shown that he can can use matter manipulation to recreate or rearrange objects to the degree of Vados. Whether he used it in combat or not is irrelevant since we know he can use the ability in the long run.

RealSociedad - Gogeta's shown he has FAR more power then Saiyan saga Goku. My point with Whis is similar, he's shown the power to use matter manipulation upon other abilities.

The idea that he won't do that is speculation, and for never done, I don't see why that matters.

And whether or not Goku has used it in that specific way is irrelevant, he uses it and even uses it in combat. We know how he can use his ability in the long run and that includes telefragging.

RealSociedad was making a joke on how one sided this match is.
It's not speculation, Goku's character would never allow him to do that: for 1) he's pure of heart, 2) Super, at least now, is aimed for kids, and 3) he hasn't shown he can use his teleportation like that.

Whis doesn't have the fact we know how exactly he uses his powers. We know he could use em, so it's safe to assume he'd use em UNTIL proven otherwise. That is to say he wouldn't outright change a person's biology since he hasn't shown to do so, but he has shown he can create inanimate objects akin to his sister.
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